This opinion is about attorney's fees, and I have no problem with how the Court of Appeal resolves it. But I nonetheless wanted to mention it because of what the trial court did below.
It's a case from Riverside. Sarah's an unmarried teenage mom who has two infant children, and Tom (I made that name up) is the father. When one of the kids was 17 months old, Sarah lost custody, and the baby was raised by Tom's father -- the child's grandfather -- Timothy (alongside his wife, the child's grandmother).
For roughly two years, the grandparents raised the kid. Eventually, Sarah cleaned up her act and regained custody of the child.
Things then seemed to be going fine for a couple of years. But in 2024, Sarah cut off the grandparents from seeking the child -- someone they'd raised for almost as long as the mother. For whatever reason, Sarah didn't want her baby-daddy's parents in her child's life.
At which point the grandparents asked the court for visitation. They wanted one weekend a month, plus two dinnertime visits each month, alongside a weekly video call.
To me, that's not an unreasonable request at all. Maybe I would shorten the requested "weekend" visit to a Saturday or Sunday. But two dinners every month? Seems 100% fine. Particularly for grandparents who voluntarily stepped in to raise a child when the mother lost custody. And the additional weekly video call seems totally reasonable.
What visitation does the trial court permits the grandparents to have, you ask?
"A five-minute phone call with the children once a month."
What?!
This seems incredibly parsimonious to me. Unless the grandparents are monsters, and the mother a paragon in child-rearing, that is quite a bit different than the order that I would have been inclined to enter were I the trial judge.
Not technically relevant to the appeal at issue. But still. It struck me as incredibly harsh.